--- type: Tip title: Don't grind a price down to nothing description: Harry used to bargain hard and stopped — he now takes the first fair number and sometimes pays over it, and he says on camera why the saving isn't worth what it costs the seller. tags: [haggling, markets, money, tipping, ethics] timestamp: 2026-08-06T13:10:00Z --- # Don't grind a price down to nothing Harry haggles — see [agree the price before it starts](/tips/agree-the-price-before-it-starts.md) — but he has a point at which he stops, and he states it as a change of habit rather than a rule of thumb: **he used to bargain hard, and has realised he doesn't need to.** The reasoning is arithmetic rather than sentiment. The last few rounds of a market negotiation are worth a dollar or two to him and a meaningful share of a day's takings to the person opposite. Winning them is a small saving bought at someone else's expense, and he'd rather have the shirt and the conversation. ## The two triggers **When the seller has told you life is hard.** In [Antananarivo](/places/antananarivo.md) he buys a Madagascar shirt — 40,000 for the poor-quality one, 150,000 for the good one — and pays about $20 without pushing, after she has explained how difficult things are. He says straight to camera that this is the change: he used to press, and he doesn't now. It lands in a city where three quarters of the people around him live on a dollar or two a day, and where a shoe seller's whole day comes to about 50,000. **When the number is already honest.** In [Kandy](/places/kandy.md) nobody has told him anything. He asks 1,500 for a cricket shirt, gets 1,200 — about $6 — and stops, saying he doesn't feel like haggling because that is a fair price. A few stalls later he inverts it entirely: trousers offered at 500 rupees, and he hands over 1,000 and tells the man to keep it. **The second trigger is the more useful one**, because it doesn't require anyone to plead. The Madagascar version can be read as a response to hardship; the Sri Lanka version is just a judgement that the price was right, which is available every time. ## The third trigger: he knows he is being charged the tourist price [Cartagena](/places/cartagena.md) adds the version where nobody has pleaded and the number is *not* honest, and he pays anyway. Buying a painting in Getsemaní he has a reference — a relative paid about half for something comparable — declines to use it, and settles at roughly $20–25, telling the camera that he doesn't like haggling down and that it isn't a lot of money for something handmade. What makes it worth recording is the reasoning he gives a few minutes later: **he is dressed like a gringo, so of course the price goes up, and he considers that fair enough.** Not a mistake he is confessing to, and not generosity toward someone struggling — an acceptance that being visibly a tourist is itself a price band. The same video shows the limit of it. He haggles the sunglasses hard, gets them from 100,000 to about 60,000, and says on camera that he was ripped off anyway. So the pattern is not "pay whatever is asked": it is that he stops caring in proportion to how much he wants the thing, and the painting he wanted. ## The objection, and his answer He gets criticism in the comments for over-paying and tipping, on the argument that it spoils people and inflates prices for everyone behind him. He addresses it directly in Kandy and rejects it: these are not people who are tipped often, the sums are small to him, and making someone's day is what he is buying. Worth reading against [the gift that isn't free](/tips/the-gift-that-isnt-free.md) and [buy the thing, don't give the cash](/tips/buy-the-thing-dont-give-the-cash.md), which are the two places where he is more careful about handing money over. ## What happened when he took the criticism The section above is the objection and his answer. [Medellín](/places/medellin.md) is what happened when he tried the objection out, and it is the best evidence on the page for either side. **He says on camera that he is haggling because his comment section told him off for not haggling in [Cartagena](/places/cartagena.md)** — the painting he knowingly overpaid for eleven days earlier. Then he loses twice in a row. One seller won't move at all. A shirt asked at 25,000 pesos gets an offer of 20,000 and stops at 23,000, and he suspects the neighbouring stalls agreed the floor between them. The whole argument is over about two thousand pesos, roughly forty pence. His verdict is a shrug: five pounds isn't a lot. Which is the same verdict he reached by not haggling at all. **So the experiment is close to a null result, and that is the useful part.** The commenters' assumption is that pushing harder gets a better price; two attempts got him roughly nothing on an item where he had no reference and the sellers had each other. It doesn't prove the objection wrong — it shows the saving being argued over is the size he already said he didn't care about. ## The bind, stated The most honest thing he says about any of this comes in [Weligama](/places/weligama.md), where he negotiates badly — a shirt asked at 3,000, moved to 2,000, and bought at 1,900 after he had offered 800 — and then addresses the two halves of his comment section at once: **some of them will say he was scammed, and some will say he shouldn't be trying to take money off people who have less than he does.** He doesn't resolve it. What he says is that he doesn't enjoy arguing over a pound, that he thinks the seller could have sourced the shirt very cheaply, that it was a very touristy spot, and that his negotiating needs work. **Which is the actual position this page describes**: not a rule that produces a clean answer, but a person deciding case by case and being visibly uncomfortable about it. ## Demonstrated in - [The Country Everyone Knows But Nobody Visits 🇲🇬](/videos/zDUHfkqNgg8.md) — the shirt in [Antananarivo](/places/antananarivo.md), and the habit stated as a thing he changed. - [My First Impressions of SRI LANKA (Not what I expected)🇱🇰](/videos/4O4tALBRRTY.md) — stopping at a fair price in [Kandy](/places/kandy.md), paying double at the next stall, and answering the comments about it. - [$0.30 Local Breakfast In Welligama 🇱🇰](/videos/i846Jw9vCY4.md) — a negotiation he loses, and both halves of the objection stated together. - [First Impressions of Cartagena, Colombia 🇨🇴](/videos/d8heYtQXrnc.md) — paying the tourist price knowingly in [Cartagena](/places/cartagena.md), and the sunglasses in the same video where he does push and loses anyway. - [Solo in Colombia's Best City! Medellin 🇨🇴](/videos/OSwpryzqBaY.md) — the page's own experiment: he haggles because the comments told him to, loses twice, and lands on the same verdict he started with.